Meet 21 year old Tom Ogle of Texas! Did you hear about Tom Ogle, probably not!
This young man was pretty smart and all research confirms he drained the fuel tank in that big V8 FORD while a reporter watched him, young Ogle then placed two gallons of gas in the tank and drove 100 miles in it with the reporter in the car. The only major modification besides the usual tire over inflation and such was a carburetor substitute that was a vapor device. Super heating the fuel to vaporize it has 2 down sides, the car is very hard to start without that initial spray of fuel (which happened on that observed test) and the performance may be slightly sluggish, but it will be very stingy on fuel (in theory)!
Did young Tom read up on the Pogue Carb of 1936?
From 1947-1959 a Fish Carb claimed improved MPG
Orders sent to the Daytona Beach company were returned by the post office after being intercepted and marked fraudulent!
The carbs were sold to individuals and later up in Canada and in Europe. JR Fish was under constant pressure to dismantle his company, it is reported famous stock car racer Fireball Roberts used one of these carbs on his racer!
Canada did grant a patent.
Remember a Patent does not say the invention works, just protects it.
Fireball Roberts ready to run Daytona on the beach.
The Brown carburetor Company of Draper Utah sold 10,000 new Fish design carbs from 1981-1996
The only claim of the Fish design was 20% better MPG and 30% more Horsepower! I am not going to get into every "supercarb" as they were known,but all used the same concept and never accepted nor mass produced.
I am not going to promote it, but it appears you can actually order a Fish Carb again, feel free to perform your own testing!
The Ogle Carburetor
Argosy Magazine had a five-page article about Tom Ogle and the media witnessed test of the “Oglemobile”. On that test run, Tom Ogle achieved more than 100 MPG in a 4,600 pound 1970 Ford Galaxie.
Tom Ogle was granted patent # 4,177,779 on Dec. 11th, 1979 “It all started with a lawn mower”
Tom Ogle became wealthy because he had taken in many investors, so ask if the vapor carb really was a proven in the past invention why was it never put in production?
Ogle was a Texas High School drop out and at age 21 asked if he feared the oil companies stopping him replied "not anymore I have had too much publicity now". No one could dispute a 4000lb car normally getting 13 MPG made a 2 part 200 mile trip on 2 gallons of gas! The car was disassembled to search for hidden fuel tanks! While working on a lawn mower a hole in the fuel tank was plugged by a vacuum line that went straight to the manifold, the mower ran for 96 hours bypassing the carb! Where did this car eventually end up?
It was reported only Ogle and his partner could understand the system, FYI a car fell on Ogles Partner and he was killed!
Ogle sold his invention to C F Ramsey who made Tom agree to step back and let him develop and market the invention, Tom received a large monthly salary. Ramsey sold the rights to Advanced Fuel Products while Tom received $5000 a month research and development money and would get 6% royalties when marketed. Tom opened his first auto diagnostic center with his wealth, hopefully to become a national chain. Advanced soon told Tom their engineers had developed their own product which had nothing to do with his invention so his income was gone, his diagnostic center failed, the invention died and so did Tom Ogle at age 24. Now looking more like a failure, his wife left him and the cause of death was listed as accidental drug overdose. The rumors said it was a cover up of a murder because the Ogle Carb was a dead issue with it's inventor! Did Advanced just realize it did not work?
No one could figure out how his carb worked and even in a more refined version wouldn't a carb that got 30-40 MPG be welcomed?
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Let us divide this up, on one side people thought Ogle had invented the device that would change the world by solving our energy problems and dependency on oil while saving the environment! If you burn 100% of the fuel, emission will be almost zero! This concept had been presented by Pogue, Fish and Schwartz to name a few and never developed,but why? This group would argue that they (auto makers and oil industry) did not want this invention to be put in production and everything possible to derail Young Ogle was tried, until his mysterious death only 4 years later! Claims of GM owning a similar patent and shelving it never were proven. The end of the story was Ogle had made a large sum of money from investors,the device never went into any production and Ogle was dead!
From the other side of the coin now:
It may be hard to wrangle all of this into a quick summary,but I will try.
Physicists have reviewed the theory of these "supercarbs" including Ogles claims and it appears the concept just does not work. Other than the Fish Carb that only made claims to a realistic 20% MPG boost no other "supercarb" went into production. A few enterprising people tried to make a "supercarb" and results netted hard starting and low performance with no mileage improvement!
It is hard not to fall into the Tom Ogle "Supergenious" victimized theory until you step back and look beyond the hype.
Rewind and we find young Ogle was just released to a half way house "Alternative House" from The JFK Youth Correction Facility in MD. for an unknown federal sentence as a juvenile! He quickly started to con people into investing in his invention and future, Polly Snyder an administrative assistant at the Alternative House was one of the first "investors", former director at Alternative Ming, attorney Bob Perel along with parole officers Garcia and Kirkland and this group was promised 5% return once the Ogle carb went into production, the group formed their own research program under the name Vapor-Air Fuel Systems which obviously vaporized itself as well! The federal employees were questioned about conflict of interest, but it turned out Ogle had approached them after his release and never conducted any business during their work hours!
Looks like you can trust this young man, right?
Mack Massey Jr. of Massey AMC-Jeep and Travis Crawford owner of a Buick-Opel dealership also became investors. Jim Peck owned the repair shop that Ogle worked in as a mechanic also became Ogles partner. Any one seen the movie The Producers? Sell shares to a loosing project!
Remember the good old days in NASCAR when the good ol' boys cheated?
If you could hide more fuel in the car, then you could go further than the competition before pit stop to refuel and they built expandable bladders in the tanks so they could be "over filled". Ogle was a smart kid and maybe spent a lot of time reading in prison? They claimed he drained the tank and then put 2 gals in it, witnesses confirmed he spilled some, I thought it was in a small bottle, not in the tank. Obviously no one cut open the fuel tank to see if a small tank within the tank existed, yes could have put 60 lbs in each tire,backed off the brakes and loosened the wheel bearings to get the car rolling easier, but any person with any mechanical background can verify the vapor carb does not work nor can a 4500 lb car get 100 MPG, it is science and impossible. It would seem the last gallon in a big car probably does not get sucked in fully, the tank is just too big even if Ogle pressurized it as said!
Many things are cloudy, his age has been flipped around a bit, he died at 26, but was 21 in 1977? just bad math I think. This mysterious silent partner that was crushed by the car was never identified? It was said this mystery man was the only other person besides Ogle that knew how this carb worked? Was this story created to enhance the claims of conspiracy, maybe Ogle needed to eliminate his "partner" or maybe he never existed? As Ogle's "Supercarb" started to fizzle so did his life. Claims of the feds trying to hammer him for such things as tax evasion were probably just that, he probably never claimed income and he spent big, gambled and drank! Remember he had a past of a federal crime,but what for? He was not a violent kid so he probably ran a previous scam, a juvenile made it to a federal prison? He apparently owed some money and at one point got shot!! The Ogle "supercarb" not in production, investors at his heels, loss of his repair shop chain dream and his wife left him with their child. he suddenly became old news and eventually overdosed on Darvon and Alcohol which was ruled accidental or suicide, Some believe his death was part of a master plan to eliminate Ogle and kill the project, but the patent survived and expired so why was the research never continued, I think it was all a scam!
There are many more who claimed to have beaten the oil dependency and usually failure was blamed on some mysterious evil sources!
The mystery of 100+ mpg cars, and the disappearance & deaths of men behind it
Tom was able the achieve 100+ mpg in his Ford Galaxie byremoving the carburetor and running the car on fumes
الحقيقة انه يمكن الاستغناء تماما عن طلمبات الوقود والكربراتير والرشاشات مع توفير هائل للوقود!Tom Ogle ومع بعض انواع السيارات يمكن الغاء كومبيوتر المحرك ايضا ! Even more recently, a few years back, a man named John Weston came forward, claiming to get 463 miles per gallon.
In an interview he gave to NBC-2, John Weston states: “It came up to 463 miles a gallon if we had driven in the same manner – a gallon. I drove from here to Fort Myers, and I’m up there keeping up with traffic running 80 mph.” The NBC reporters were even took to a test drive, where the engine stumbled a little bit and John said he put too much vapor on the pipe, so when he lowered the vapors, everything got back to normal.
Some mechanics say that disconnecting the fuel lines and not feeding the engine with regular liquid fuel will eventually ruin it. It may be so, but precautions can be taken and proper oiling can be made so the engine is well-lubricated. The same thing applies to gas-converted cars, and they run smoothly forever (it’s only gas, not oil). I don’t know much about mechanics, but if you find a system that gets you 463mpg,you’re also smart enough to find a proper lubrication system.
“Since there was a way to get that many miles per gallon on those old cars back then, why is it so hard to believe we can’t make it work now,” he asked.
Argosy Magazine had a five-page article about Tom Ogle and the media witnessed test of the “Oglemobile”. On that test run, Tom Ogle achieved more than 100 MPG in a 4,600 pound 1970 Ford Galaxie.
Tom Ogle was granted patent # 4,177,779 on Dec. 11th, 1979
“In 1933 Charles Nelson Pogue made headlines when he drove a 1932 Ford V8, 200 miles on a gallon of gas during a demonstration conducted by The Ford Motor Company in Winnipeg, Manitoba using his super-carb system.” The Pogue Carb went into production and was sold openly. [317 were sold?] In the opening months of 1936, stock exchange offices and brokers were swamped with orders to dump all oil stock immediately. His invention caused such shock waves through the stock market, that the US and Canadian governments both stepped in and [successfully] applied pressure to stifle him.
Pogue went overnight from impoverished inventor to the manager of a successful factory making oil filters for the motor industry.
[ see Don Garlits with Pogue carb. on Super Carburetors Hist. page ]
Do it yourself
2014: We have now found others like John who have discovered how to run on vapor-fumes and are sharing their success on our “Run your car on vapor” page. … They show and tell exactly how John and the others do it. – with a bottle and some hose.
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